I’ve been meaning to invite Ryan Bell to do a podcast with me for a while, but he beat me to it and we ended up having a great conversation. Part of the reason it went so well is that Ryan and I totally speak the same language, but it certainly didn’t hurt that he’s super smart and way hipper than me. We talked about a bunch of good stuff, but you may have to forgive me for the cockroach bit.

(My segment begins around 7:50 or so.)