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How can secular people care for each other when the chips are down? Jason Callahan is the chaplain for the Thomas Palliative Care Unit at VCU Massey Cancer Center in Virginia and instructor for the Departments of Patient Counseling and Pastoral Care at VCU. Jason is a seminary-educated secular chaplain, endorsed by the Humanist Society and nationally board-certified by the Association of Professional Chaplains.
Bart eats some humble pie with an apology he felt compelled to make after the realization that he hasn’t always come across the way he intended.
Listener questions abound on this episode, posed in real time by Humanize Me producer John Wright, featuring topics raised on the podcast’s top-secret Facebook group (which is totally easy to find HERE).
On this episode: When to come out as an unbeliever to your pastor, what Bart’s been reading lately, whether atheists can enjoy worship music, and who to thank for the pleasure of living, among other things.
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Gleb was involved in starting it. Bart signed up to it. Now, they’re both committed to it. What is the Pro-Truth Pledge? How do we separate fact from fiction? And why did a group of scientists come together at this moment in history to do this? Gleb joins Bart for this episode of the podcast to talk about it.
Bart chats with Vanessa Zoltan, a research assistant at Harvard Divinity School where she graduated who has been involved with the Humanist Hub at Harvard University and is well-known for her approach to reading books like Harry Potter as a sacred text.
Among the topics covered in this episode:
- Being an atheist for solidarity
- The power of prayer?
- Lectio Divina and Harry Potter
- On shared languages and arts
- How something like that gets started
Bart’s son Roman joins him for this chat, recorded on Father’s Day, in which they contemplate the nature of ‘fathering’ and the attributes of an ideal father figure in someone’s life. What are the factors that make someone a good mentor? How can fathers establish a reality model for the person they’re mentoring but stretch to understand their world too? Is religion based on a father complex? To what extent did Bart’s own values stick with Roman, and what does Roman think now?
(Roman jumps back on the mic later for a bonus segment on Trump and the current state of the political drama in the United States, with an exchange of views about how much people should be engaged with it or care about the intricacies of what’s going on.)
Roman is a musician and songwriter living in Los Angeles.
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