Humanize Me 118: One former Christian minister to another

Once in a while, we run into people who we have so much in common with, it’s an instant connection and leads to a long conversation. This is one such conversation, between two well-known progressive Christian ministers who both stopped believing in God in recent years and left Christianity in public ways.

Although Bart Campolo and Jim Mulholland share many aspects of their stories with each other, some of the ways they have journeyed since leaving faith are different. Listen in on Bart’s conversation with Jim, which includes some talk about:

  • Why Bart and Jim respectively left Christianity
  • What to call themselves now that they’re no longer Christians
  • Why Bart and Jim’s experiences of leaving Christianity are so different in certain ways
  • Jim’s marriage at the time, and to what extent his transition played a part in it ending
  • How ‘walking with God’ really means ‘walking alone’ and how to adjust to knowing that
  • How happiness is a fundamental instinct and tends to be where the search for meaning begins
  • Allowing those you love to go beyond you, ideologically
  • Whether certain psychoactive drugs can be used to provide experiences that will help people
  • Death and mortality, and how to think about the end

Check out Jim’s website at, and his book Leaving Your Religion: A Practical Guide to Becoming Non-Religious is available HERE. To get in touch with Bart, go HERE.[/fusion_builder_column][/fusion_builder_row][/fusion_builder_container]


By | 2022-08-10T16:08:09+00:00 August 17th, 2016|Podcast|

About the Author:

Bart Campolo is a secular community builder, counselor and writer who currently serves as the Humanist Chaplain at the University of Cincinnati. Listen to his podcast HERE!