It’s been a hard week for Bart! Episode 509 of this podcast featured his conversation with Michael Dowd, a fellow ‘apocalyoptimist’ who shares Bart’s belief that a great societal collapse is inevitable, and that the current pandemic represents the beginning of a difficult time for humanity.
Bart’s son Roman Campolo listened, and hated the episode. Not only did Roman have strong criticisms of Dowd, collapse-thinking, and the tone and content of the conversation itself, but he feels that Bart is wasting his unique skill set and intellect on apocalyptic thinking at a time when he could be applying himself to this moment more effectively.
In this episode, Roman lets Bart have it, firing on all cylinders. We thought about some different titles for this episode:
“Roman v Bart”
“An on-mic intervention”
“About last week…”
“A podcast massacre”
“Roman on a rampage”
“Bart gets taken to the woodshed”
“Roman takes no prisoners”
Ultimately, Bart acknowledges the validity of much of the criticism, and admits to feeling some paralysis in the face of the pandemic. He believes his mission is to offer strength and encouragement in a time of crisis, and to be a source of hope. The response to last week’s episode – from Roman, producer John Wright and others – is a call to be better than we were last week.
As Bart says in the intro, if you’re not comfortable with verbal conflict, or don’t want to hear a robust argument right now, you may want to skip to the one-hour mark and listen through to the end from there. But if you kinda want to hear a good old-fashioned brawl, this is your episode!
Roman also features heavily through Bart’s story of his first psychedelic experience. Hear it at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe. And our deepest thanks for your continued – and even increased – support over there; it means a lot.